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Mazda RX-7 Fortune body kit questions.?
I love the body kit "Fortune" by VeilSide for the Mazda RX-7. In a few years, I hope to sell my RX8 and buy an RX-7 and Fortune body kit. But I have a few questions...
1- I have no idea how to install a body kit. Around how much would it cost to get this (19 piece?) body kit professionally installed?
2- How much would it cost to paint it?
3- Any other costs?
4- What is the body kit made of? Carbon fiber? Fiberglass?
Maybe you didn't understand... you're right in the fact that I don't know anything about installing this stuff on cars, but I didn't ask how much it would be for ME to do it. I tried to make it clear that I wanted it PROFESSIONALLY installed, meaning not by me. Also, it costs $11,000 so I highly doubt it's cheap toy plastic. I was asking this question for people who actually know what this body kit is.
Ok, I'll give a quick opinion, then try to answer. The Fortune body kit is hideous. Keep the RX-7 stock looking, it looks better, doesn't ruin the lines.
1. To get a body kit that involved installed by a TRUE professional, I'd say a minimum 20 hours labor at $100-150 an hour, so that's probably $2000-3000.
2. If you're throwing away $11,000 on some ABS plastic body panels, then the cost to paint it won't matter. Painting it is cheap, Maybe $4000 for decent paint and labor.
3. Other costs...prep. Preparation is the most important and most expensive part. It would probably cost $15,000 or more to prep a job THAT involved.
4. It is a Fiber-reinforced plastic more than likely, like most body kits are. I highly doubt it's carbon fiber, however the veilside website says something about carbon fiber and it being clear coated, so it's possible, I guess.
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My Car Collection Mazda RX8 Veilside
What car would be good to race with? Rx8?
I really would love to have a reasonably priced car that I could put a veilside body kit on and race with. Would a Rx8 or Rx7 be good? What year should I look for? Any other suggestions of cars?
Whitney,
I love cars and I have a particular interest in the rotary engine powered Rx8. From a performance racing standpoint the rotary engine is well suited for track work, far better than a daily driver. The rotary is a continuous engine that rotates in a cylinder at a high rate of speed. This power plant is designed for revs as high as 9,000 rpm in manual, stock form. As you may well know, rotary power plants are used in small aircraft because they are immensely reliable, since they are best in a continued use application, like flying or racing.
The Rx8 in particular is a finesse car. It is not a power car but it is best described as an instrument that carves through curves with precision. It is a feisty competitor with a lot of nerve. It's diminutive 1.3 litre engine will not scare anyone on the track, if anything it will draw admiration and a level of curiosity. The rotary has the precision of a tuning fork, which is its greatest strength and weakness. It has exact tolerances which makes the power plant finicky relative to pulling maintenance. For instance, never use synthetic oil in a rotary engine. The lubricity will cause the engine to burn itself out, because the very nature of a rotary is that it needs some friction. This does not matter as much if you are a gear head. For the purpose of answering your question, I will assume you are mechanically inclined.
Where things become noticeably intriguing is in the curves. If you race on a winding track, the Rx8 can hold it's own against the likes of a Corvette and Viper. Simply because the emphasis is on overall car balance, power to weight ratio and engine responsiveness in short sprints going in and out of curves.
The Rx8 is based on a british formula accentuated by Japanese brand philosophy & performance. The legendary Lotus Elise is still built today, now with an iteration in the form of the all electric Tesla sports car. Colin Chapman often gets the credit for a formulaic approach based on power to weight ratio being priority number one. He argued and correctly so, that a drivers car should have a small engine, coupled with a light carriage and an equally responsive transmission. The Lotus Elise cars are still hand made. Mazda incorporated this same approach with the term "Jimba Itta" baked into the manufacture of all of their mass produced small cars. Jimba Itta means horse and rider as one. Where this is most apparent is in the Mazda Mx5, Rx8, 3 and 6 to a lesser or greater degree depending on the set up. Mazda took Chapman's idea and made quantifiable touch and sound. Kansei engineering measures sound and touch in the cockpit of the car. With the help of Hiroshima University and the Japanese Ministry of Transportation the "emotion of motion" is down to a science in every Mazda motor car.
Therefore, the Mazda Rx8 and likewise the Mx5 are an excellent and affordable choice to race on a curvy track. Both have plenty aftermarket parts to improve performance. The one distinguishing point is that the Mx5 has a four cylinder engine. It too is a widely raced automobile and has a stellar track record.
In the meantime, I have nothing against an older model like the Rx7, nevertheless, it would be important to consider the existing road miles, its previous life and to what extent the car will be pressed into service under your right foot should all be taken into consideration. Secondly, in this down shift in the global economy, parts for older cars will be more difficult to order. A newer car can be prone to not have parts for the time being, but you should not get stuck without parts like an old model; simply because the economic climate doesn't lend itself to stocking a wide variety of car parts old or new.
Utilizing the same idea of a lightweight vehicle and small engine consider keen power to weight ratio. The Honda S2000, Lotus Elise, Mazdaspeed 3 and Pontiac Solstice should be on your short list. The American car brand is not as refined nor polished as the Japanese makes, but you can make it so based on your commitment to overcome what may be lacking in stock form. To be reasonably priced, in the aforementioned models you can go back 3-5 years on the Japanese models. As for the Pontiac and it's Saturn twin, it is a buyers market. Cheers.
